Episode 38

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18th Dec 2025

Lessons in Change from Frozen - with Dr Ben Askew

Hi there and a very warm welcome to Season 6 Episode 38 of People Soup, it's Ross McIntosh here.  

In this episode we welcome the return of Dr Ben Askew to People Soup and this is our two part festive special where we delve into the challenges of behaviour change using the film Frozen. We analyse Elsa's fear-driven isolation and Ana's craving for connection, highlighting both rigid and naive approaches to love and relationships. Throughout the conversation, we draw parallels to real-life leadership challenges and the importance of understanding and flexibility. There is some of my singing involved in this episode, which I added in post production. Those who appreciate a fine set of pipes - might want to skip those bits.

For those of you who are new to People Soup - welcome - it's great to have you here - I aim to provide you with ingredients for a better work life from behavioural science and beyond. For those of you who are regular P Soupers - thanks for tuning in - we love it that you're part of our community.

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People Soup
Ingredients for a better work-life from behavioural science and beyond
More than ever the world of work is a heady mix of people, behaviour, events and challenges. When the blend is right it can be first-rate. Behavioural science & psychology has a lot to offer in terms of recipes, ingredients, seasoning, spices & utensils - welcome to People Soup.

About your host

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Ross McIntosh

I'm a work psychologist. I want to help you navigate the daily challenges of work by sharing behavioural science in a way that's accessible, useful and fun.
I'm originally from Northumberland in the UK and I now live near Seville in Spain with my husband.