Episode 66

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2nd Oct 2026

Quick Spoon: What else might be true?

We all tell stories to make sense of our experiences.

  • Your boss says something you don't like.
  • Someone challenges you in a meeting.
  • A colleague doesn't do what you expected.

And almost immediately, we can have a story about what's going on:

"They're being difficult."

"They don't appreciate me."

"They've got it in for me."

In this Quick Spoon, Dr Ryan Kemp talks about how we can construct stories about other people when we've had a negative experience — and how it can sometimes take a little longer to consider our own part in what's happening.

Sometimes our story might be absolutely right.

But Ryan's observation made me think about the value of creating a little space before we settle on our explanation.

Not to blame ourselves.

To be curious.

So here's your Quick Spoon:

The next time you find yourself telling a very convincing story about someone else, pause and ask:

What else might be true here?

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Transcript
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[00:00:14] Takes a little while for that sort of internal monologue thing to come round to, "Well, maybe, Ryan, you [00:00:20] didn't do that job well enough. You didn't actually deliver on that project, therefore, actually the responsibility is really with you, and your boss is actually just helping you out here." [00:00:30] takes a little while.

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[00:00:43] Ross: in this clip, Ryan talks about the stories we tell ourselves to make sense of difficult experiences

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[00:00:51] Your boss says something you don't like. Someone challenges you in a meeting

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[00:00:59] And almost [00:01:00] immediately we have a story. They're being difficult. They don't appreciate me. they've got it in for me Now sometimes that story might be absolutely [00:01:10] right

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[00:01:17] Because it can take us a little longer to get [00:01:20] to, Is there anything here that I really need to look at and reflect on? That's not about blaming ourselves. That's about being curious. So here's something to [00:01:30] try

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About the Podcast

People Soup
Real conversations about work, leadership and being human.
Grounded in behavioural science, with practical ideas you can actually use.

The name People Soup comes from a quote by Abraham Maslow:

"A first-rate soup is more creative than a second-rate painting."

I've always loved that idea because creativity isn't confined to art. It shows up in how we live, work, lead and relate to one another.

Work often feels like a soup: a rich, sometimes bewildering mix of people, personalities, decisions, pressures, relationships and unexpected challenges. Every day we're trying to make sense of the ingredients in front of us.

Behavioural science doesn't make work simple, but it does give us better ways of responding to complexity. It offers practical ideas, evidence-based tools and skills that help us respond more effectively—to ourselves, to other people and to the situations we face.

That's what People Soup is all about.

Whether it's a conversation with a guest or a short solo episode, People Soup explores how behavioural science—and particularly Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)—can help us lead and work with greater intention, developing the psychological flexibility and practical wisdom to navigate whatever life throws our way.

About your host

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Ross McIntosh

I'm Ross McIntosh, a business psychologist, coach and facilitator, with over 30 years' experience helping people thrive at work.

People Soup grew from a simple belief: work is an important part of life, but it doesn't have to come at the expense of our wellbeing, our relationships or our values.

Each episode explores the realities of work, leadership and being human through the lens of behavioural science. Sometimes that's a conversation with an inspiring guest. Sometimes it's a short "Quick Spoon" offering a practical idea you can put into practice straight away.

My work is grounded in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), an evidence-based approach that helps people develop psychological flexibility: the ability to stay purposeful, adaptable and effective, even when life gets messy.

Whether you're leading a team, supporting others, or simply trying to navigate the pressures of modern work, my hope is that People Soup gives you practical tools, fresh perspectives and the confidence to take your next meaningful step.

A few things about me
Chartered Fellow of the CIPD.
Fellow of the Association for Coaching.
Research collaborator with City St George's, University of London.
Speaker, facilitator and leadership development consultant.
Founder and Host of the People Soup podcast.

When I'm not recording the podcast or working with clients, you'll usually find me reading, cycling, improving my Spanish, or enjoying life in southern Spain with my husband.